MySQL Community · Why does MySQL use twice the memory of comparable tools?

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Myr/mysql·posted by tang_hao·yesterdayTooling

Why does MySQL use twice the memory of comparable tools?

Some background first. Our setup is MySQL plus three downstream services, seven figures of daily requests, peaking around nine in the evening.

# Load test: do not jump straight to the max concurrency.
# Ramp it up, otherwise you miss the knee.
for c in 50 100 200 400 800; do
  wrk -t8 -c$c -d60s --latency http://127.0.0.1:8080/api/feed
  sleep 20
done

Worth noting: the official docs do cover this, just in a very inconspicuous spot. I only found it reading the source comments, where the author explains the reasoning — roughly "so that it degrades into predictable behaviour in extreme cases".

One last trap: in container environments remember to adjust the memory-related parameters in step. Otherwise the host limit and the process expectation disagree, and the symptom is intermittent, unreproducible failure.

On trade-offs, my view is this: if nobody on the team owns this area long-term, do not introduce a second mechanism. With two coexistence you first have to work out which one is even in play when things break, and that costs far more than the performance you saved.

The first thing was to collapse the variables. We were changing config and upgrading the version at the same time, and afterwards nobody could say which change caused what. We rolled back to moving one variable at a time, re-ran three times, and only then did the curve settle. Tedious, but not skippable.

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Zzhou_yiOP·2 hours ago

Thanks for sharing real numbers — far more useful than the articles that only cover concepts.

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Zzhou_yi·12 minutes ago

One counter-example: below MySQL 7.4 the semantics of that code are different, so do not copy it verbatim. We got burned in staging and rolled back once.

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Oops_wang·just now

I just read the MySQL source — the author actually explains the reasoning in a comment, roughly "so that it degrades into predictable behaviour in extreme cases".

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Bbob_chen·2 hours ago

A question: what changes in a container with a 512Mi memory limit? That is how we run it in production.

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Rrase·28 minutes ago

Worth learning from this debugging approach. We went straight at the logs and took a much longer route.

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Lli_mingOP·28 minutes ago

Can you give a minimal reproduction? I ran it locally for ten minutes and could not reproduce on macOS with the latest version.

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Kkernel_panic·12 minutes ago

This matches what we see in production. We only hit it past 3k QPS; the earlier load tests showed nothing — the test traffic was too clean, with no long-tail requests.

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Lli_ming·just now

This is not a MySQL problem, it is a usage problem. The docs say this API is not thread-safe and you must lock around it yourself.

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Wwinter·12 minutes ago

I see point 3 differently. The trade-off depends on your read/write ratio: read-heavy with little writing means caching actually widens the inconsistency window.

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